Neither here nor there

The fact that pledges willingly submit themselves to hazing is neither here nor there, and any organization that engages in hazing will lose its charter.

I had life troubles and heart troubles which are neither here nor there in this narrative. But, combined with them, were intellectual troubles which are indeed germane.

“It would be most irregular Grandpa!” says Miss Cecily frowning and tapping her foot. “Well, we’re a pretty irregular family so that’s neither here nor there,” says the old man, impish like.